Jackie Parry – author

Top Ten Tips for buying a boat (+ 5 bonus tips!)

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1) Research research, research

With 50 years combined professional and personal knowledge and thousands of ocean miles, we still spent two years searching on the internet  (while working on shore) before viewing boats (in San Francisco) and purchasing our second boat, Pyewacket II. Join groups in FB, cruising web-pages and read blogs that are relevant to your situation – ask questions, keep asking questions. Read, read, read.

Research, read, research and don’t stop!

2) Which material?/ What size.

Already discussed in previous articles. See here.

But, usually, the longer the boat the more cost involved, more antifoul, heavier/longer rigging., etc, but with care & knowledge it doesn’t have to be too much more. Owning and maintaining a boat that is already in a seaworthy condition is pretty much a full time job. If you want to go cruising sooner rather than later, you do not have time for a major fixer-upper.

How much work do you want to do before you GO cruising?

How much work do you want to do before you GO cruising?

3) Is it better to buy a boat from a broker or privately?

You may not have a choice. We purchased both our boats privately and sold them privately too. In the past, we thought that brokers charged too much for their service. However, we sold our friends’ sailboat on their behalf and quickly found out that doing a good job of selling a boat is an incredible amount of work. If the boat you want is for sale via a broker, do some research on the broker – be prepared. But, try to form your own opinions on the broker and remember when you are buying, the broker will be looking out for the seller (who is employing him). If you are buying privately carry out relevant checks (see below).

4) If a boat seems cheap, ask yourself why?

Is it just circumstance? Is it the market? Or is there a problem that needs addressing. Keep this in mind when viewing.

5) Verification of details

If you are buying a boat, research and verification of all the detail is extremely important and if it is all new to you, ask a friend who has some knowledge to help. If you are buying privately, we recommend that you hire the services of professional document advisers/escrow agent.

Verify:

  • What equipment is being left on board
  • Who is paying for what during survey (paint, additional work that is necessary while on the hard) – make sure this is ALL clear
  • There is no money owing on the boat
  • The owners ARE the owners
  • Timeline for everything to happen succinctly (booking haul, surveyor out etc)
  • Can you have your deposit returned at survey stage if you are not happy for any reason?

6) How do you view a boat?

We viewed many boats and we were always startled by so many differences.

  • There is never a foolish question, Ask, ask, ask – research, research, research.
  • Check everything works
  • Start the engine, watch it working
  • Try the bed, enough room for you?
  • Stand at the sink – are you comfortable?
  • Find the reason why there is oil under the engine or water in the bilge.
  • Do the heads flush properly?
  • Sample the water on board, it is a good indication of the state of the tanks.
  • It is imperative that you choose your own surveyor

Is it seaworthy?

7) Technical specs

Ask lots of questions about the boat. Some of the most important things to know are:

  • Its condition, is it seaworthy?
  • The length over all (LOA)
  • Displacement (weight)
  • Draft (how deep the water must be in order to sail)
  • Age of the vessel
  • Number and types of sails on board
  • Be sure to ask if there’s any equipment that is presently on the boat that will be removed by the owner prior to the sale. For example, some owners will remove electronics like televisions, GPS systems, and even radios.
  • How regularly are the batteries charged/maintained
  • Is there a maintenance log book available for the engine?
  • At survey, you could have an engine oil analysis done (if available).

8) How many viewings? A test sail?

We always arranged a second and third visit to boats that interested us. You must spend time on board, you are not wasting people’s time if you are genuinely interested in the vessel. If we felt rushed when looking at a boat (or were constantly distracted by the broker/seller) – we viewed this as a red flag and thought there were problems that were being hidden. When we purchased our boats and when we sold our boats, the agreement was:

  • A test sail was arranged after the deposit was received (usually 10%)
  • The deposit was refundable if the test sail didn’t ‘work’(!)
  • The deposit is a good faith payment that helps filter out time-wasters wanting a day on the water
  • The deposit made the potential purchaser responsible, not so gung-ho!

9) Keep Track

If you are viewing several boats, take pictures of each. Start with the name and a full picture, then take pictures as you go through the vessel, otherwise they will all blend in to one. An organised notebook helps too. Jot down what you liked and disliked for later reference.

Finalise the test sail detail prior to going... how long, how far, deposit?

Finalise the test sail detail prior to going… how long, how far, deposit?

10) Buying the right boat

Try to restrain your emotions. While you should listen to your heart, you must follow up with your brain and acquired knowledge or your bank balance could get hurt and your safety may be compromised. Do thorough research. However, eventually your emotions will play a part.

Be broadminded and prepared to look at something you hadn’t considered previously. We started looking for something in the mid 40ft range and ended up with a 51 footer.

Cost considerations should span out to marinas or moorings. Do some research on this if you are interested in a boat in a specific area. You will need to haul it out for a survey (at your expense). It is quite likely you will have to update safety equipment: Fire extinguishers, EPRIBs, safety equipment, life jackets etc.,

Don’t forget registration will have to be transferred, this can be a sizeable expense at times.

11) Surveyor

We had all our boats surveyed. A surveyor will help verify the value of the boat and the potential expense involved in any restoration. AND highlight problems.

12) International purchase

If you are purchasing a boat in another country, research the import duty for taking it home and any tax implications in the country you purchased the boat.

13) Make an offer

Brokers will pass on any offer, it is not up to them to turn it down, they are obliged to pass it on. Put a value (you know what it is with all your research, and start low. You can go up, but not down!) The process is similar to buying a house.

Haul out and surveyor is usually at buyers cost.

Haul out and surveyor is usually at buyers cost.

14) Checks!

Check and double-check all paperwork, official numbers, licences etc. Make sure each engraved or painted-on registration number matches the paperwork.

15) Lastly

Don’t forget that boats can vary wildly – an acceptable 34 footer in one design may be too small in another design… good luck!

If you haul out for survey (and all goes well), you may as well anti-foul while you are there.

If you haul out for survey (and all goes well), you may as well anti-foul while you are there.

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12 thoughts on “Top Ten Tips for buying a boat (+ 5 bonus tips!)

  1. Very, very good advice here. Having said that, when we bought our barge, we travelled up to Scotland, saw her on the loch, rowed out the next morning and bought her on the spot, ignoring all sensible advice and logic!! Mind you Pete does have quite a lot of knowledge about boats so I wouldn’t advise others to do it that way x

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    • Thanks Fran. When we purchased our first boat, I didn’t know the back end from the front end of a boat – I was thoroughly daunted at the whole process. But when we stepped on Mariah, it was me that said, ‘we’ve just found our boat!’. So emotions do play a big part… however, we did follow up with the rest of the ‘head’ stuff! And yes, agreed, it helps knowing about boats (Noel has sailed all his life. Your heart knows what you want, but you do have to ‘think’ a little too…. 🙂 (Love your story!)

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  2. How do you go about getting a test sail? My husband and I have been wanting to get a boat for the summer and we want to try out a few different kinds. I would love to have a sail boat but he is all about the speed and water skis. It seems that testing both types out would help us decide what type we would like to get.

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    • Hi Aria, sorry it took so long for me to reply, we’ve been ‘on the road’ and out of touch.
      That is a great question and something I may well address on a blog. It is hard to test sail a boat that is for sale. Most people, including us, will not do a test sail without a deposit (some do refundable some do not) and really it is a way to avoid people just wanting a day out on the water.
      But for people such as yourselves, I would recommend joining groups (whether a website or FB) on the types of boats that interest you and chat to people there. More often than not they are owners of the said boats and will be delighted to share their views. This could also lead to an invite on board one of the boats. This happened to us. There was a brand of boat we knew about but we wanted to know more – we started chatting to owners of this type of boat and received a wonderful invite to go sailing on Sydney harbour for a few hours – the experience was wonderful and so very helpful.
      I will give this more thought too – and try to put a blog together on it.
      Are you a member of FB – there are a few great groups out there for some great advice – namely Women Who Sail, Women Who Sail Australia, New Zealand… you are quite free to join up and probably make some wonderful connections….
      Perhaps crewing too would help. Many people need crew for a day or longer.
      Do let me know how you go – where are you based? What do you have your eye on?
      Regards,
      Jackie

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      • We are from Kilkenny a few hours north of Adelaide. My husband has his eyes on an Evolution 500 Caddy and he seems pretty set on it! I will have to check out those FB pages that you recommend and get advice from other boat owners.

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  3. We don’t know anything about that boat – sorry can’t help. I tried googling the name/brand there are forums there, but I couldn’t access them, something about my location (Belgium). The key question is what you are going to want to do with the boat and does that boat meet those requirements! Best of luck, let us know how you go!

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  4. These are great tips for buying a boat! Buying a boat has a lot of responsibility to it, so it’s always important to do your research before just buying! Thanks for sharing!

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  5. I like your tip to ask yourself why a boat seems cheap. I think it would even be okay to ask the seller why he or she is selling it or to ask why the price is so low. If they try hiding an answer, you know that there’s something fishy about the boat.

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  6. Thank you for sharing this exhaustive list of tips for those interested in buying a boat. Making this kind of purchase is not simple. There is a lot to consider including the actual vessel, cost, maintenance issues, and even storage. For those who want to avoid these hassles I recommend renting a boat this summer. This way all you have to worry about is having fun on the water. However, for your readers that are looking to buy, they are sure to find your information valuable. Thanks again for sharing!

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    • HI Laura, thanks for your comments. I couldn’t agree more, hire a boat if you are looking short-term or just to try to see if you like it. Then you’ll know what you want on a boat or not… Hope you are having fair winds out there.

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